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Dear 5 Sqn Association
Welcome back to Level 2!  Whatever that brings to you and your family.

In this update, I’d like to introduce  Flying Officer Tyler Ngapo, Air Warfare Officer (Information Manager), hailing from Te Awamutu. Tyler has stepped up to provide us regular updates from the Squadron.  (Editor’s note: AWO(IM)’s sit on the tac rail at what was the P3K Navigator Station. And yes, that station is still a very long way from the galley!  That joke never gets old).

Tyler’s first update from the Flight Line, 
5 Squadron operations have also been hit by the COVID-19 border closures and even now, when the rest of the country is working out what Level 2 means, Crews remain under lockdown-like conditions to mitigate risk of infection and thereby maintain the Squadron’s response capability.  
Squadron Operations continued through the lockdown. P3K2’s flew four sorties in support of Cyclone Harold relief, to Tonga, Fiji and Vanuatu (twice). Regular EEZ patrols also continued throughout the lockdown. One patrol of note picked up several Pleasure Craft who were not complying with the Level 3 restrictions.
Crew currency has been maintained with training sorties still being flown.
The rest of the year looks less rosy, with many international exercises and operations either disrupted or cancelled. To keep skills sharp 5 Sqn and the RNZN will run an ASW Exercise “Exercise Tungsten” here at home. 

Thanks Tyler. We wish you happy hunting on Tungsten!  

Members might also be interested in the link below. It is borrowed from an email SQNLDR Hugh Francis (rtd) sent around couple of weeks back.  There is a mass of photographic content in there. The search engine works well on it. There are plenty of golden memories to be found just scrolling through too.

https://fotoweb. airforcemuseum.co.nz/fotoweb/ archives/5003-Search-the- Collection/

Enjoy searching and thanks Hugh.

Looking ahead for the rest of this year, we are still hoping to get together socially at some stage. Depending on how the social distance restrictions develop, that will be later in the year.

Radar Up!

Logan Cudby
Keitou Kalawaca Na Wasaliwa

Andrew Roberts andrew.roberts@xtra.co.nz

I might be clutching at straws here, but I’m touching base with you to see if there was any chance you may be able to help with a photo or two of my Dad for my daughters school project.
My name is Andrew Roberts, and my father John ‘Phred’ Roberts served on the Squadron from the late 60s until the early 80s, I think. From that point he took up various ground rolls at Whenuapai before he retired from the service in 1991. Unfortunately not long after he left the RNZAF he was diagnosed with his second brain tumour, which ultimately got him in June 1993.
Fast forward many a year and I’m now a pilot with Air New Zealand, although more a home based school teacher at the moment, and my eldest daughter has caught the aviation bug also. She is currently working on an assignment about being in the RNZAF and she is working through the section on how she was influenced. Unfortunately I don’t have any photos of Dad, I have several books from that era including Kiwi Orion’s and unfortunately the photo section at the Wigram museum is closed due to Covid.
Is there any chance the association or any of your members may be able to help me and Katelyn out or point us in the right direction? I had an amazing upbringing being a Air Force brat, so I’m sure it’ll bring back some great memories.
Thanks for your time.
Andrew Roberts

Andrew Roberts andrew.roberts@xtra.co.nz

Thanks to all those who reponded to Andrew's request.

The April issue of Air Force News is here and putting your feet up to read it is another way to enjoy staying at home like a hero. This issue won’t be printed due to Level 4 restrictions. Inside we give some good information on COVID-19, shine a light on some of the operations that kick-started the year, and chat with those involved in a real-life SAR during what should have been a training exercise. Please note all activities were completed before New Zealand went into Level 4. April 2020, issue 223


From April Air Force News







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The first use of air power was to observe the battlefield from the air; the advantage of height allowing more to be seen than is possible from the ground


Details of the unfolding battle was reported to commanders, enhancing their situational awareness and informing their decisions. until 1911, this role was usually performed using manned balloons but in October of that year the first reconnaissance flight using powered aircraft was undertaken by the Italians during the Italo-Turkish War in Libya. Later, during WWI, scouting aircraft were regularly reconnoitring the battlefronts of Europe. Reconnaissance, and its companions surveillance and intelligence, remain fundamental to air power, and to the conduct of warfare itself. Collectively, Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) has far wider applicability than just on the battlefield and is central to a country’s ability to understand what is happening within its borders, and outlying maritime region. ISR aircraft are routinely deployed into international waters to monitor sea lines of communication, more commonly referred to as sea lanes, in order to ensure that international trade is not impeded by pirates or arbitrary actions 
of other nations. In the same manner, sea lanes and maritime areas are monitored for illegal activities, to ensure international sanctions are upheld, or to support government agencies. For example, No 5 Squadron RNZAF has recently conducted surveillance missions in New Zealand waters, and around the world, for the following purposes: • Identify illegal fishing activities in the Ross Sea. • Monitor uN sanctions against North Korea. • Carrying out a census of southern right whales in New Zealand Sub-Antarctic Islands. • Cyclone and earthquake damage reconnaissance. • Identify acts of piracy, and people and drug trafficking in the Middle East. • Various search and rescue missions in the Pacific.

When required, other Air Force squadrons also undertake surveillance and reconnaissance missions such as a No. 40 Squadron C-130 aircraft dispatched to look at forest fires on the Chatham Islands, a No. 3 Squadron NH90 helicopter conducting aerial patrols of Fiordland, and a No. 42 Squadron B200 King Air aircraft deployed to assess cyclone damage in the Pacific. But, what do we mean by the terms Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance? First we will start with surveillance, which is the systematic observation of air, surface or subsurface areas, and places, by visual, aural, electronic, photographic, or other means. Simply put, surveillance is a wide-area search carried out over a long period of time and is about monitoring and collecting information about an area of observation, and looking for abnormalities and potential threats within that area. In terms of New Zealand’s Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ), airborne surveillance is carried out regularly and will continue well into the future. 
However, we may see aircraft based surveillance of the EEZ being supplemented with Earth observation satellites. Reconnaissance is slightly different. It is a specific mission undertaken to obtain, by visual observation or other detection methods, information about the activities and resources of an adversary, or potential adversary, or to secure geographical data about a particular area. While surveillance may detect something amiss in an area, reconnaissance is about understanding what is going on. Further, in terms of disaster relief, reconnaissance is vital to understand the effects of a cyclone, earthquake, or tsunami. From the information gained, appropriate support can be provided to the communities requiring assistance. Intelligence is the product resulting from the processing of information gained during surveillance and reconnaissance missions. It provides national leadership, or military commanders, an understanding of what is happening in an area of concern, including supporting 
details such as weather, cultural, and geographical aspects relevant to the situation. The strategic role of ISR is to enable decision superiority by providing key pieces of data, information, and intelligence that assists the Air Force, NZDF, and New Zealand Government in achieving its objectives. ISR’s tactical role is to provide battlespace awareness, and information superiority, and therefore, decision superiority to military commanders. Basically, ISR involves getting the right information to the right people, in the right format, at the right time. By providing the best possible intelligence to the military commander, they can plan and make the best operational decisions. Air and satellite based ISR is used to achieve an early awareness of potential crisis points and enhance the quality of political and highlevel military understanding that leads to informed decision-making.














Photos of the Laucala Bay Monument Event 2018

Note the symbolism that the artist, Shane Bower from Savusavu, has created with the wings of a giant seabird (albatross) mounted above the representative fuselage - the lower half of which is a Sunderland wing float. more


Space Age Hazard 

Middle East Surveillence

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75th Anniversary 1941-2016

MOTAT and Whenuapai events photo collection



A Blast From the Past

Here is a series of links kindly provided by Robin Klitscher. These links are pieces written by Robin K which will be of interest to members, particularly the web-footers.

Recently digitised footage of Laucala bay

Sunderland Veterans Rolling Back The years

Facebook Slideshow  

With thanks from Wings Over New Zealand

5 Squadron RNZAF Association Trophy Recipients

The award includes a printed copy of the citation and an inscribed plaque to be retained by the recipient. 


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Poseidon provides increased security A P-8A Poseidon maritime surveillance a six-month deployment of a Navy

ADF’s main operating base in the Middle East on October 15 to join an international maritime security mission.

Defence Minister Linda Reynolds said the P-8A aircraft’s advanced surveillance and intelligence-gathering capabilities provided a modest and meaningful contribution to maintaining the freedom of navigation and safe passage of merchant vessels through the Strait of Hormuz.

“The P-8A will work alongside our coalition partners to keep vital supplies for the international community flowing through the region,” Senator Reynolds said.

“Australia has a longstanding comto maritime security in the mitment waters of the Middle East and continues to support the fundamental right of all states under international law to expect safe passage of their trade.” The P-8A aircraft’s one-month deployment is part of a limited and time-bound commitment that includes frigate from January 2020 and a small number of ADF personnel serving in the International Maritime Security Construct headquarters in Bahrain.

The P-8A will finish its deployment by the end of November.

“This military contribution complements our longstanding commitment with allies and partners to anti-piracy and counterterrorism in the Middle East,” Senator Reynolds said.

Air Task Group Commander GPCAPT Mark Barry said it was the first time a P-8A Poseidon had operated in the Middle East.

“Not only will the aircraft be making an important contribution to regional peace and security, but we will also be able to test the P-8A and its crew in a number of challenging scenarios,” GPCAPT Barry said.

“The Poseidon will make a welcome addition to the efforts of our coalition partners to boost regional security and help shipping pass through the Strait of Hormuz without interference.”



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